What the fudge happened here?

I thought I had an actual interview with an actual store tomorrow morning — I open this morning’s email — and they have cancelled.

No explanation given, just an email saying the interview is off and to pull it from my schedule.

I am tempted to get dressed and go tomorrow morning anyway.

What do you do when you need money and wow, not even a retail job is going to pan out? it’s like you can’t make any plans at all. Every single thing you plan heads right out the window.

I do not know what could have happened there. I do no know why it’s “the interview is cancelled.” I am guessing they made some sort of an error in the first place and somehow I got a notification to come to their group interview. Seemed odd I never heard from any of the stores…but that one said for me to come to their interview.

When you are people like us and it’s critical to have even that job and now the job isn’t going to happen, it’s a crime: rotten and miserable and frigging CRIME is what it is. WE are the people who are educated and intelligent and worked at jobs far more interesting and mind-challenging than retail, yet we can’t even seem to get an IN over there for that job!

Be &$^%**!@% glad we are interested in working for minimum wage and wow, probably only until the day after Christmas — so that is what, a scant 2 week RUN???

Also poor form to notify somebody a scant day in advance. I have never liked it when I’ve gotten a last minute cancellation. I don’t care if it is a hole in the wall 2 person outfit or a big major store: BAD form to cancel this late in the game.

Between mid-September and now, I visited and cold called — on foot — 35 companies/retail establishments.

This is retail, a hotel or 2 and various companies. 35 places and not one opening — nothing. ALL of these companies that I visited in this one particular building had every employee follow them to the new locale; there were no people who decided “the commute is too long for me so I will not be going with them”??? Very hard to believe.

And that there is no plan to add an employee or 2 for the new year.

Even harder to believe.

This whole year has been a %*$#&*$ mess. I will be glad when it is OVER. To the DEVIL with this entire YEAR.

I went over to that store and I left my name and number in one of the business offices. I don’t think I will be getting a call back; I was there earlier today.

I just can’t understand it. When I sit down at that interview, it’s like I become invisible. These people do not want to talk to me or have any interest in me. Do they just not believe what I have to say? Am I making the whole thing up, to them? Did I give them some reason to disbelieve me, or my resume, or anything else I have prcsented to them?

It is not age or appearance. Plenty of these offices have much older people working there — and lots of them are much older than I am. What’s going on here? And it sure isn’t race or color. If I was of color or another race, I’d suspect that the first thing off the bat.

I have worked for some real lulus, fruitcakes, the not so bright, the corrupt, the foul mouthed, the inept, the wishy washy, the spineless  and somebody who was in charge simply because the company was family-run and he was the heir apparent.    None of the people I have interviewed with are any worse than people I have worked for — so what is going on here? Why am I not a match with any of these hiring managers?

I cannot spend my days waiting for ads and waiting for interviews. That has resulted in a big fat nothing for me and will result in more of the same. Where in God’s name do you go when you need money and a job immediately?

Somebody suggested the following:

1-Move to another state. I cannot do that; you guys know what kind of big trouble there is here on the homefront

2-Try daycare centers; they are always looking for people to change diapers and to quell screaming kids. Apparently there is high turnover in those places.  I have never diapered a baby or even so much as baby sat. Plus won’t they fingerprint you up the wazoo and back again and background check you until the next century comes and goes?

I have a nightmare on my hands, on all fronts. I don’t know hot to make it stop and I sure don’t know how to get somebody to hire me.

What do I do now?

7 thoughts on “What the fudge happened here?”

  1. You might have answered your own question, considering the willingness or necessity of people to work at low wages and on lousy schedules. A longer-term effect is that we have adjusted to lousy customer service, which in turn reduces the need to staff at historical levels. It’s a classic race to the bottom fueled by the need to drive down prices. The rise of “fast fashion” stores like Forever 21 depend heavily on volume rather than high unit price. According to The Guardian, most women are supposed to buy their body weight in clothing yearly.

    Retail is a relatively high fixed cost business. The places where a store manager can cut costs are to maintain less inventory. leaving less to mark down later, and spend less on labor. Spending less on labor can mean lower wages, combining job functions (greeting and loss prevention), and anything else that you can imagine.

    It should be easy enough to find out the requirements for child care workers. My guess is that you would need to be checked for both a criminal record and a child abuse record and possibly drug tested. I have no idea how long it will take for the investigation, or who pays for it.

  2. I don’t get it.

    Why am I of such noninterest to every single psrson I interviewed with?

    In 2000, it took me 6 weeks to find a job. I replied to 6 ads, got 5 replies and 4 interviews. The company that hired me more or less hired me on the spot.

    In 2007, it took me 3 months to find that job. In August OF 2007 when I started looking again, there were no ads. Everything seemed to have dried up and blown away.

    I can name you plenty of other times I found a job quickly. I don’t know what happened here. I am at a loss: why such noninterest in me?

    Something strange is going n here — there is no reason for this. I do not smell. My appearance is fine. My grasp of the English language is excellent — I do not have a heavy unintelligible accent, foreign, local or other. I am courteouos and prompt and I come to the interview dressed FOR an interview.

    Why am I being rejected immediately?

    THAT is my big question.

    Is it possible that none of these meetings was an interview?

    Willingness to work for low wages?

    I have yet to her the employers discuss salary with me. You could say to me “We are paying $650 a week” but to me that is meaningless. You did not make me an actual offer.

    And asking me “What salary are you looking at?” Means nothng. You can say “Low to mid 40s per year” and they can nod their heads: that does not mean that I am asking you people for what you are actually paying — and I magically wound up in the range of what you are going to pay the hiree. You people might be paying $15/hr for all I know and I just priced myself out of the running. These big shots will never admit to that.

    And as a result, I will never find out if I simply am too much money for them to afford.

    How are they zeroing in on the candidates that will work for whatever amount that is being offered — and why is it we are not being zeroed in on?

    1. I can speak only for federal employment, because that’s the world that I know. Filling jobs has gone from taking about six weeks, because you have to announce the job and advertise it for about two weeks, then the candidates have to be rated and ranked, interviews conducted, most over the phone, and a decision made, and the job offered. Back in 2005, I was offered a job based on my resume, without an interview. That hasn’t happened since then, even though I am competing for similar jobs with the same narrow subject knowledge.

      Two things have happened: the same job is offerred at a pay grade lower, which costs the candidate about $10K, though there might be a chance to be repromoted to the old pay grade after a year or two. It is also MUCH more common (30% of job annnouncements) to make a referral list and have the job announcement cancelled, not after a month or two, but after six to nine months, all of that time people were expecting someone to be hired. Even more common is for the job to be reannouonced and people who applied previously are told not to apply. This is for jobs that pay about $100K.

      The only jobs that are filled within the old six-week timeframe are for jobs that are two pay grades higher than me, and are at the top of the civil service. If people like me, who have skills that are hard to find are being jerked around, I can only imagine the nonsense that goes on with lower-paid jobs. Management has an incentive to not fill positions and spread the work over the remaining people, as is happening in mhy office with the departure several months ago of one of the engineers. If management acts NOW, there nmight be someone here by February, because almost certainly, the candidate will need to relocate. The drawback of not filling jobs to look good with headquarters is that people will quit or retire, worsening the problem.

      In federal service, there is less of a financial incentive to not fill jobs that there is in the private sector. If I can do my job with five full-time people rather than six, that’s money that flows right to the bottom line in the private sector, where as a federal manager, I would be unable to retain the money that I saved and carry it over to a future year.

      You do have much better transparency in federal pay than in the private sector. You know the pay range that you can get, and the actual pay that you get can be negotiated somewhat if you are a new federal employee, but if you are transferring to another job of the same grade, your pay will be set by so-called “locality pay” of that area. For instance, if I moved from Maryland to Colorado to a job of the same grade, I would have my pay cut by $8K per year due to locality pay. This is not as bad as it looks because the difference in state income tax is about $5K per year.

      1. How do I get this madness to stop?

        It’s like they are all doing the same thing: they already have a certain type in mind — usually a replica of the person who just quit or retired — and they want a carbon copy of that individual.

        And if they have their mind made up, what good is this TO ME? WHY is my time being wasted?

        Sometimes they make it pretty clear what they want. “The person who we had retired; she was here 15 years.” THis is somebody with no skill set (when she got there) and no degree, either. How can I “compete” with somebody who fits that descrption? He probably will pay that person the same thing: nothing. Usually the unskilled and uneducated get about $15/hr to start, if they are lucky.

        And if this is what he wants, his prerogative — so can ypu tell me, then, why it is you had me come here to waste MY time, mister?

        Indeed tell me why I am here – perhaps you were only curious to see what I would have to say. It really is pretty strange that you didn’t zero in on my education and experience and ask me about it via phone or email when you initially contacted me. I thought that was kind of odd.

        What gave the whole thing away – that he perhaps wanted somebody with no experience at all – was the part of the ad that said “On the job training [provided].” Don’t you think it would be more cost effective, as well as only common sense, to hire somebody with a skill set that matched the job? You’re doing this for the sake of hiring somebody for $15 an hour or whatever low salary it is that the job is paying???

        That does not make sense. This person doesn’t know a metric ton from Two Tons of Fun — yet you want this person to join your team and be a go-getter, ball breaking admin assistant that will eventually get to know what the industry does on a day to day basis? I am sorry but that makes no damn sense at all. Time is MONEY and you, as the manager, should KNOW this already.

        Don’t you want somebody who already knows how many kilograms of what product goes onto a pallet and don’t you want to hire somebody who knows what a COA is and what an MSDS sheet is, among other things??? Why do you want somebody who has no knowledge of the industry? “On the job training” means “No experience of any kind is fine.” You’ve opened a real can of worms. You’ll get resumes from retail people, the chronically out of work, the untrained and the unskilled. POOR rationale.

        This same kind of thing happened awhile back at another company. “Will train” and blah blah blah. I got as far as her second interview (the first one was with her and I met with her for 10 minutes in person) but I didn’t get the job.

        It also meant nothing that I had a scientific background – and this company made apparatus for various scientific uses.

        The first person they hired lasted about 2 or 3 weeks – they ran the ad again — and I called her again to tell her I was still interested. “I will think about it” she said.

        2 days went by and then I called her.

        She said to me “After careful consideration, I gave the job to somebody else.” Huh? Who says that to somebody, really?

        The person who was hired the first time, according to her (I asked) was hired “because she had more international billing experience.” Huh? There’s nothing to that! You set up a proforma invoice and anybody at all can learn how to do that in about 10 minutes. What does it take to set up a template and fill in the data as needed????

        The whole thing is full of shit, phoney and clueless. They simply do not want somebody with a solid job background that matches the job to a T and they do not want anybody smart.

        That you people were O for 1 from the first go-round of candidates’ selection tells me a lot. Either this person made an egregious error by accepting your job (who knows what got into the mix) or the person you hired was canned early on. Neither one of these scenarios is a positive one. Says plenty about the company and plenty about the people who did the hiring.

        My friend who works for the D of L suggested I come in and speak to one of the counselors. What can he suggest for me that has not already been suggested? I’ve done school. I’ve gone to resume people. I’ve seen their other counselor who had this good idea and that one: none of them panned out, either due to the odds or some other factor.

        What I need:

        A job that I can have asap, like by MONDAY — and one that pays me enough for me to pay for what I need to pay for.

        Is it possible that each and every one of these hiring entities simply wants somebody else and not “me” — they have a certain type in mind and they won’t stop until they find that person? Only my guess.

        1. I’ve long been convinced that hiring is more emotionally driven than rationally driven. I have better success getting jobs when I am interviewed over the phone than when I interview in person. I don’t think that I make a bad impression in person, but people are forced to listen much more closely when they don’t have nonverbal cues available and can’t afford to be distracted because they are talking to you over a speakerphone, often with three or four other people who make up the hiring panel. They have the same information about me in either case.

          The sense that a new hire can adapt to whatever the company culture is more highly valued than technical skills. This makes sense from the point of view that information can be taught, but how you are doesn’t change. I would disagree with this. If you are of average personality, I care more about competence than other factors.

          I’m in the middle of reasding “Are You Smart Enough to Work for Google?” by William Poundstone. One of the points tht he makes is that there is no surefire predictor of success in a job, and that’s why we’ve gotten into all the questionnaires, brain teasers, and other ways of selecting employees that have little to do with their qualifications. If you know that a job involves lifting 40 pounds dozens of times per day, chances are that you would prefer a man over a woman. If you want to edit copy, women may well be better than men at that task,

          1. I’ve long been convinced that hiring is more emotionally driven than rationally driven.

            What possible “emotional” connection could there be to hiring somebody who is the carbon copy of what just resigned or retired?? You’re doing this with the purpose of getting the same result as you got with the person who just left. I think you have that mixed up, mister, with baking cookies for Christimas where you use a cookie cutter to get all the cookies to come out alike!

            Everybody is different. Plus chances are you will never get “the same person” as was already there. This is foolishness and this is pointless.

            What sense does it make, then, to waste my time, if you have your mind made up what you want???

            I have better success getting jobs when I am interviewed over the phone than when I interview in person. I don’t think that I make a bad impression in person, but people are forced to listen much more closely when they don’t have nonverbal cues available and can’t afford to be distracted because they are talking to you over a speakerphone, often with three or four other people who make up the hiring panel. They have the same information about me in either case.

            That is not how they do it anymore out here. The last time I had a group interview in person was almost 3 years ago.

            The last real phone interview I had was years ago — the VP of R&D called me at 8:30 on a Sunday night and asked me about a half hour full of questions. The in person interview was on Friday; he asked the same questions and about an hour more of other questions.

            The sense that a new hire can adapt to whatever the company culture is more highly valued than technical skills. This makes sense from the point of view that information can be taught, but how you are doesn’t change. I would disagree with this. If you are of average personality, I care more about competence than other factors.

            I don’t get this and I never will.

            This is a real emergency I’ve got going on. Can’t we override this kind of thing ad just hire the person who is the most qualified???

            The sense that a new hire can adapt to whatever the company culture is more highly valued than technical skills. This makes sense from the point of view that information can be taught, but how you are doesn’t change. I would disagree with this. If you are of average personality, I care more about competence than other factors.

            What company culture???

            I never even meet any of the other employees — not even casually. I don’t get a feel what the company is about. I am often as not shuttled into an office with the door shut and I cannot observe what is going on with the employees as they interact.

            What about ME?

            I don’t get to meet any of the employees or see what goes on; how do I know if I will even like THEM??

            I’m in the middle of reasding “Are You Smart Enough to Work for Google?” by William Poundstone. One of the points tht he makes is that there is no surefire predictor of success in a job, and that’s why we’ve gotten into all the questionnaires, brain teasers, and other ways of selecting employees that have little to do with their qualifications. If you know that a job involves lifting 40 pounds dozens of times per day, chances are that you would prefer a man over a woman. If you want to edit copy, women may well be better than men at that task

            Nope — Some smart son of a bitch sold this dumbassed test/questionnaire/panel to companies, convincing them this would cure all of their woes of hiring the right person.

            You are only good at the battery of questions.

            It still does not show what the person will be like on a day to day basis. Or if they are dependable or if they’re smart or if they can do the actual JOB! Anybody can make claims to fame on a resume – and it is a fact most people lie on resumes.

            We were looking to hire a graphic artist and designer at a company I worked for. The owner suggested to the art director that the candidate be given a take home exam of sorts, where he’d design something he’d enconter on the job – and pay him for his time.

            He got the job.

            Is a stupid battery of questions going to determine how creative a person is, or determine how he can use color and copy and other factors???

            Company culture?

            Most of the companies here are tiny. They don’t give a hang about company culture. That’s how it is.

  3. It may be a long shot but tomorrow I plan on going to see a job counselor over in unemployment.

    Tell him exactly what the deal is: I’ve looked, with no success and the second I sit down I seem to become invisible. There is no interest in me and I do not know why — and what does he suggest I do — I need a job stat first and foremostly and literally stat.

    School makes no sense. There is no hot field out there and even if you do have the money to do something on your own, what training do you take? Maybe something technical like welding; someplace somewhere there has to be a shop that is hiring a welder.

    I want to know why there is no interest in me and why I become invisible to every one of these people. I sit down and I am immediately out of the running for the job:WHY is my big question.

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