Another dead shopping mall

Today I was watching the news and saw a mall I used to shop at is yet again another mall about to be closed. Granted, I haven’t shopped there in years because the area got really creepy but still I did shop there. Someone posted an article someone wrote about photos they took in 1989 of various malls. Made me think back to my teen years and how I shopped there and other malls often. Back in 1989 I was 18 and the malls were where I bought my clothes, my electronics and music. I used to go to bookstores and music stores and buy. Now I buy online. This mall for the last few years has only had a few stores open.

I have spoken before of the mall I shopped at as a small child. This mall is interesting because it speaks to societal issues from white flight to the changing economy and more. This mall when it was standing was the most famous dead mall in the world and people traveled to see it. They didn’t come to see it because of that  but because of its place in movie history and how that instance is so famous many other shows imitate it. It was torn down not long ago after standing many years dead.

There is a mall not far from me now I go to sometimes and it’s often dead. Me and Fred were going to go see the decorations last Christmas but they didn’t even put any up. We decided not to go because of it. I wonder how long before malls are all gone. The teen life of shopping at malls for the day are sadly long gone.

6 thoughts on “Another dead shopping mall”

  1. I think I have seen the photos you are talking about. If not that batch, there are likely more than one website full of photos of old, dead or torn down malls.

    There are also deserted malls that are being reissued as business incubators and housing. They’d be great to reuse as microapartment complexes.

    We have more than 1 mall out here that is dead or dying: One was demolished 5 years ago; the only draw was a Fortunoff and A JC Penney but Fotunoff went out of business in 2008 sometime.

    In the mall’s place is a Costco and a Dick’s Sporting Goods is now using the old Fortunoff building.

    There is another mall that was redone and refitted — I liked it the way it was — there is now a C21 there, a Whole Foods supermarket (too expensive for me) and a variety of other company stores.

    The little chapel that conducts Mass daily is still there — yep, this is a house of worship inside of a mall. This must be great for the retail people who can’t get to church otherwise, especially during holiday season.

    Another mall further up the road about mil from there was refitted with other stores about 12 years ago. it seems to be doing okay.

    The word is out that 2 or 3 other malls may just be torn down and the land used for something else, probably another big box store.

    And a nice little strip mall — had a Kohl’s and a Stop and Shop anchoring it — was demolished and now 4 or 6 big box stores are there. Torn down because they decided the mall fulfilled its purpose and nobody shops in a cave anymore! I liked that mall — something to do on a weeknight; go see what Mandee and the rest of the stores have on sale.

    It was also great for the lunchtime crowd! People always shop during lunch and pick up what they need They’d eat in the food court and then do their shopping.

    Those vendors and stores got the shaft; the operators of that mall lied and said “no, we aren’t closing” — this was back at the end of 2006. Stores began closing…and the retail spaces were not filling up with any more new stores.

    SURE they are closing -if not, then why is this mall emptying out and why are there no other retail stores coming to take the store spaces???

    They finally came clean and told the public — and the sorry souls who were left— yes, it is true we are closing. Our final day of operation will be sometime at the start of 2008. They very kindly shuffled who was left off to Buffalo — magnaminous enough to move them to another small mall about 2 miles from there…guess what; that mall, too, closed, 2 years ago!

    When the majority of the stores were gone and a few remained, the interior of that mal was deplorable — debris everywhere and you could smell gas leaking. I asked one of the store managers about it; he said that nobody ever comes to look into the gas leak!

    I do not shop at Kohl’s, Babies R Us, Toys R us, TJ Maxx, Sports Authority or Bob’s Furniture. That’s what we got in exchange for the old strip mall — portions of the Glory Days video was shot on site of that original mall while it was still under construction

    And the grand daddy of them all — that horrid mall that I have oft mentioned on this board — is still sitting there and now has another owner. They think it may open in 2016 — what a mess. There are supposed plans to get a local township to foot the bill for it — and they are supposed to see quite a big lump of change go into their pocket, courtesy of the owners of the mall.

    There is no announcement about what stores have committed. The original game plan was to have this thing open as a very upscale mall. In THIS area??? Forget it — there is also Short Hills Mall that is very upscale and there is also shopping in NYC — a 15 minute bus ride from the new mall.

    I read the whole article 5 times and STILL couldn’t understand how this thing was going to work. Somebody’s gonna have their fingers taken as a result of this mess. East Rutherford is only a working class kind of town and not the best place to live in Bergen County.

    My take on that piece of shit “mall” that stands for graft, greed, fraud and scammery:

    That mall was designed not to open.

    It will never open and it is nothing but a venue for graft and fraud.

    Give it 5 more years. That thing will still be sitting in the Meadowlands, right off the Turnpike and it will be empty: no stores, no shoppers and just a scam.

    They will still be waiting for yet another taker to own it.

    It will be a basilica to the gods of theft.

    There are a good 20 malls within a 50 minute drive of that beast — how can they say that yet another shopping venue is a good idea??? It’s rumored that Woodbridge mall will be shut down, along with Wayne Town Center — and Ican name quite a few other shopping areas that are limping along.

    If you want the list of what malls those are — and why not? — Willowbrook, Garden State Plaza, Bergen Town Center, Fashion Center, Brunswick Center, Woodbridge Mall, Staten Island Mall, Jersey Gardens, another group of company stores that opened in Staten Island 2 years ago, Newport Center, Hudson Mall, Mommouth Mall, Short Hills Mall, Wayne Hills Mall, Paramus Park, Woodbury Commons, Nanuet Mall, Palisades Center Mall and Rockaway Mall. The Galleria in White Plains is included.

    There’s also a mall containing company stores that’s somewhere in Ocean County and Essex Green Mall in West Orange.

    Not counting all the strip malls and big box shopping complexes. MANY of those are not far from this new mall.

    So how in Hannah is this idea for this behemoth of an eyesore of a mall to open a good idea??

    To top that off, there is a proposed mall that they want to build about 25 miles up the road from there, on the same land that holds a Sheraton Hotel (interesting story behind that: that land used to house the old Ford Motor complex in Mahwah…closed in 1981. My uncle, and a schoolmate’s dad were coworkers on the line at that Ford plant) They say there is no shopping??? Well, if you get in yer car and take a 20 minute ride down Route 17, you’ll encounter many malls!

    WHY do they want to build more stores??? We do not have full consumerism. It makes no sense.

    There is also a mall in Atlantic City. Never lasted. Is sitting there waiting for an owner. No dice.

    And there is a mall in Bejing that is HUGE — I am guessing its square footage is the size of a small town here in the States, maybe the size of Rutherford– and it is empty. No stores, just 2 or 3 little places to shop.

    As goes the Bejing mall, so goes the rest of them.

  2. Unfortunately I don’t think many people who build the malls think. I do blame the big box stores because not that long ago (and I’m sure you encountered this as I did)you had to go to different places to buy things. Back in my teens I generally bought my clothes in the mall because the few big box stores we had back then either were low class or didn’t carry my size. Then if you wanted music (back then vinyl or tapes)you went to a record store and if you wanted books, a book store. Now you can find anything online or big box stores. However, many big box stores only carry a small amount. Awhile back me and my mom went into Wal-Mart (we rarely shop there)to see if they had jogging pants in her size and it was hard. My mom is a small petite (5’4 at most and 100 soaking wet)and by far most sizes were 18 and above.

    I think what saddens me is in both of these malls part of the reason were changing demographics. This latest mall was standing some 30 plus years and the last few years have been shaky. The other mall was standing about 45 years before torn down but for over 30 years was vacant. It was because no one could afford to tear it down or liked the notoriety. It was a famous mall and many would go there to look at it. I considered it but the area is so scary and high on crime.

    1. The BIG place for us to shop was “the Avenue.”

      There is a block of stores — all kinds — and whatever you needed could be purchased there.

      Nobody ever went to a standard mall to buy anything if you lived around here.

      The Avenue has changed. Mostly Hispanic stores and lots are also under the ownership of Muslims. I see some Asian Indians there, but not many; this isn’t “their” area — that’s Jersey City and the block that’s aroun the corner from where my aunt lived has a very heavy concentration of them.

  3. I grew up in NYC, and we didn’t go to malls. Our ‘mall’ was Herald Square, where there was (in my childhood) Macy’s, Korvettes, Gimbels, Sterns and Orbachs, all within a block or so. Of these, only Macy’s remains, along with a recently-opened JCPenney.

    When I moved to suburban Pittsburgh in the late 1980s, there were still big department stores in the city, but I didn’t go there very often: the malls were closer, and you didn’t have to pay for parking. Ross Park Mall was my favorite: it had pretty much everything except for groceries and hardware, and was pleasantly busy year-round.

    The last few years, when I’ve been traveling, I’ve found malls to be overly calm, quiet as libraries.

    1. I think it depends on the city. I’ve shopped at Water Tower Place in downtown Chicago and that is a huge mall. However, as you’d expect it is expensive and the stores are cheaper in the suburbs. I’ve always thought my family was lower income but I’ve been rethinking and I think we were likely closer to upper middle class because we did a lot of shopping in higher end stores like Marshall Fields and Carsons.

    2. 14Th Street was also a very big place to shop.

      Ohrbach’s was gone by the end of he 80s, I think.

      There was also Hahne’s and Sealfon’s — also gone. So is Alexander’s, A&S, and so are many other little local chains and very local department stores.

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