Is the Department of Labor already being outsourced? Looks to me like maybe it’s starting to happen…

http://www.northjersey.com/news/libraries-already-helping-job-seekers-get-government-recognition-and-funding-1.1058655

There is a “Workforce Innovation and Opportunity Act”??

Sounds to me like they are already outsourcing the Department of Labor.

I don’t know about your library but mine has offered classes in Excel and Word for a good several years already. And really, teach people how to use email?

How are a bunch of library courses going to help you get a job?

Are library staff members going to be skilled in counseling those who have lost jobs? Can they really “Write” a resume for you?

Most of the library staff are town employees — at least they are in my neck of the woods! What would they know about job seeking? Many have been employed there for years and years.

They have never been out of work; they do not know what type of unique culture, as it were, goes with losing your job and being out of work.

Library staff members cannot counsel those who are out of work. Are they going to be of aid when a client comes in in tears and says they hsve to relinquish their dog because they can no longer afford to care for the pet? Can they offer true advice when a client says they cannot pay rent, or pay for food, or pay the utilities? What are they going to tell a software engineer or an allied health worker  who has lost their job to outsourcing, offshoring or a visaed worker? What will they do with a client who just found out his company is relocating to a distant state and he will be losing his job in 60 days?

How about the client whose husband walked out the door; she’s been raising the kids and the last job she had was back in the early 80s? What do you do when she tells you she’s got no education, no skills and no money — he’s left and taken it all?

What about a client who is out of college for 3 years already and still can’t find a job?

What do they do for a client who is 60 and can’t find a job? Is it ageism? is it bad luck? what is it?

What about the client in real crisis who needs to see a mental health professional?

Are the staff members going to call the client and follow up to see how that person’s job search is going?

ONLY a few examples of what a job seeker goes through — and what do they do with a client who has taken every course there and still no work???

This program is a waste of money, in my opinion. Better used for other things — and how is this money distributed? By town size, need, or demographic? HOW? We don’t have that information.

We can’t even call local businesses and ask what jobs they have open — simply because we don’t really even have very many businesses here in town anymore. They’ve moved or closed or vacated operations in this town and who knows why?  Social services more or less took over the “job counseling” — I mentioned this to all of you awhile back. The only jobs they had available in September were paltry warehouse jobs and most of them required “must speak Spanish.” I was referred to a county nonprofit group — the jobs there, again, were for nonskilled workers. Nothing for college grads.

So I don’t see how the local library is going to get anybody a job, so to speak. How are they going to get jobs for middle class educated people?

This program is filler, another bandaid and more kool aid. Nothing more.

And here is another thing: the state has offered computer courses for years! So what is the big deal here with hooking up with libraries to more or less teach the same kind of classes that are offered through the Department of Labor??? Ther are also 4K vouchers available; the money has to be spent at a state or community college, if, that is, you are eleigible for benefits.. You can take all the computer corses you are able to for 4 grand. So what is the big deal here?

11 thoughts on “Is the Department of Labor already being outsourced? Looks to me like maybe it’s starting to happen…”

  1. The ‘retraining game’ has been going on for decades. The real problem remains that wealth, not income, has been transferred to the top 10% who will not give it back without a fight. As long as they have all the wealth, there will be few if any living income jobs. The money for retraining is a scam. It is designed to con people into believing they have control of their future. That their lives are theirs to guide. It is a form of delusion which has been bought by the American people much to theirs, and the worlds, detriment. It is like watching a train wreck, and we cannot stop it and we are on the train!

  2. And as early as a decade or so ago, it wasn’t even called “retraining.” You CHANGED CAREERS and that might have only entailed taking 1 or 2 courses to prepare you for your new job.

    This retraining bullshit is piking time. That is all it is — this is ekeing out time and it’s presenting it to the public like this is something fantastic and outstanding.

  3. I think I mentioned this earlier but a few years ago I called the program in Illinois that is supposed to help unemployed workers. To even get in the program I would have had to take computer classes in Excel, email, Word and something else. Did I mention I use to TEACH these and more? What purpose is it to take a class on something I am an expert in? The woman admitted that because I have a degree after I went through this class likely they would reject me anyway. The class was 45 minutes away too. Yeah, not worth it for me.

    A few years ago my library had someone come in from the workforce department in my county to help on resumes. There were many there but I was the only white collar person. One was a fast food worker, one was retail, one was factory and the rest were in these categories as well. Several didn’t have a GED or a high school diploma. It was a waste of time but luckily not far away.

    1. You can see what a waste of time it is.

      Factory workers do not need a resume. Nor do retail workers or service industry workers.

      Unless they are changing fields and they want to spotlight something they excelled at from their current situation but no, they don’t need a resume.

      Completing an application is their best route.

      I told you what a waste of time all of this is. Fact of the matter is there are no “Careers in demand” out there anymore — even the proprietary schools are cashing in on mortuary science.

      1. Dude, so true. What the county person also told me was my degree was in demand (BA in communications, minor in marketing, MA communications and instructional design). Obviously it’s not because I would have not only found a job but have had employer fighting for me. Outside of a few jobs I didn’t want (mostly home health care jobs that I have neither the inclination nor the physical ability to do)there haven’t been many jobs. The so called “jobs in demand” like teachers, scientists etc have long term unemployed. I went to a job seminar where this guy had a Ph.D in something like neuroscience or physics was unemployed as long as me. If I think I am overqualified I can imagine what he thinks. Oh and after the guy did his speech and presentation on how to job interview, etc almost everyone there came up to him to ask if he was hiring no joke.

        The resume seminar I went to (not the same one as above)I definitely was higher educated than anyone else. In fact I felt really stupid because I was way out of my league. I saw what some were bringing in as resumes and they looked like something I would have written in grade school. To top it off I registered at the county workforce website, uploaded my resume and had some idiot at the county decide to critique my resume when I never asked for it. I called the manager and told her what the worker did without my permission and she said “she was trying to help”. Yeah right, telling me to omit things and spell things differently (In some cases the wrong way)while telling me “no wonder you can’t find a job” is supposed to be helpful in what way? telling me to dumb down my resume to apply for a minimum wage job at a fast food restaurant or a store is helpful in what way?

        1. Allied health workers do not need a resume, either! A lab is a lab and a laboratory section is a laboratory section! No need to hand in a not-needed piece of paper. Your application will do nicely.

          Unless perhaps you’ve attended grad school or you’ve done some type of special research or special project. At this point, you need a CV and NOT a resume.

          It is a shame you have to lie and say “Attended XYZ Community College” rather than “BS in LIberal Arts, ABC University”,

          The bottom line:

          The best qualified individual does not get the job. The worst qualified usually does.

          And what is the big deal with telling us to liee for a minimum wage job??? There are some of us who want a job in a store or a restaurant, simply for something to do, even if we are employed full time! Perhaps some of us need the extra money a part time mimimum wage job will bring in.

          The whole system is a sham. it is rank and it is a scam.

          Nothing at all wrong with being employed full time and wanting a part time job elsewhere!

  4. AfTer WWII they had the GI Bill. People believed it lead to full employment. People believe a lot of things that are not true. Truth is, we had full employment because we had a healthy distribution of wealth in this country. We no longer have that, and so now we no longer have jobs for a lot of people in this country. We can either fix the distribution of wealth, or the USA will continue to decline. Training people for non-existent jobs, how sad is that?!!!

    1. What the GI Bill did in a lot of cases was to pay servicemembers to stay out of the workforce by going to school, or take at most a part-time job, while they were in college or taking some other sort of training. This bought some time for them to transition back into the workforce and be absorbed as the economy grew. Military personnel could get benefits under the original GI Bill through 1956.

      From the VA website:

      President Franklin D. Roosevelt’s Statement on Signing the G.I. Bill
      June 22, 1944
      This bill, which I have signed today, substantially carries out most of the recommendations made by me in a speech on July 28, 1943, and more specifically in messages to the Congress dated October 27, 1943, and November 23, 1943:
      It gives servicemen and women the opportunity of resuming their education or technical training after discharge, or of taking a refresher or retrainer course, not only without tuition charge up to $500 per school year, but with the right to receive a monthly living allowance while pursuing their studies.
      It makes provision for the guarantee by the Federal Government of not to exceed 50 percent of certain loans made to veterans for the purchase or construction of homes, farms, and business properties.
      It provides for reasonable unemployment allowances payable each week up to a maximum period of one year, to those veterans who are unable to find a job.
      It establishes improved machinery for effective job counseling for veterans and for finding jobs for returning soldiers and sailors.
      It authorizes the construction of all necessary additional hospital facilities.
      It strengthens the authority of the Veterans Administration to enable it to discharge its existing and added responsibilities with promptness and efficiency.
      With the signing of this bill a well-rounded program of special veterans’ benefits is nearly completed. It gives emphatic notice to the men and women in our armed forces that the American people do not intend to let them down.
      By prior legislation, the Federal Government has already provided for the armed forces of this war: adequate dependency allowances; mustering-out pay; generous hospitalization, medical care, and vocational rehabilitation and training; liberal pensions in case of death or disability in military service; substantial war risk life insurance, and guaranty of premiums on commercial policies during service; protection of civil rights and suspension of enforcement of certain civil liabilities during service; emergency maternal care for wives of enlisted men; and reemployment rights for returning veterans.
      This bill therefore and the former legislation provide the special benefits which are due to the members of our armed forces — for they “have been compelled to make greater economic sacrifice and every other kind of sacrifice than the rest of us, and are entitled to definite action to help take care of their special problems.” While further study and experience may suggest some changes and improvements, the Congress is to be congratulated on the prompt action it has taken.

      1. There were a lot of guys who returned to college after the war, because their educations were interrupted by the Japanese.

        And it is also a great way to pay for your education now — join the service after high school, do your hitch and when you come out, go to college courtesy of Uncle Sam.

        1. There also were accelerated degree programs offered just before and in the early part of World War II to allow officer candidates to complete their education. Many colleges offered three-year accelerated programs. Having similar three-year programs available now would do a lot to cut down on student debt.

          If I were to advise someone who wanted to serve in the military, I’d prefer that they go to college first on a ROTC scholarship. This gives you a guaranteed summer job after your sophomore and junior years where you are paid about half of the pay and the regular allowances of a second lieutenant. Because your job will be the ROTC version of offer candidate school after your sophomore year and a “third lieutenant” program after your junior year, both of which are likely to be on a military base, you’ll get housing and meals provided, so you can save most of your net pay.

          With the drawdown that is coming for the military, there’s a decent chance that you wouldn’t even have to serve on active duty after your degree, but will serve six to eight years in the inactive reserves.

  5. Reading through the article that you cited, it sounds like the program is more interested in getting funding for libraries than finding actual jobs for people.

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