What employers want

During my period of unemployment I take online classes through the library. Mostly because the certification looks good on resume. Anyway I have been taking a class on interviews. The class states what we have all known: that employers are more interested in the “fit” “personality” etc than actual skills. The course even states that it feels behavior interviews are great because it can hire the best.¬†Yet many of us are unemployed or underemployed, likely because we don’t answer the way they want. I know clowns with little experience and skills get hired because they have the right personality. It does give the way to answer many of these questions.

Yet years ago people often were hired on the spot and hired based on skills and stayed for years. Now most people only stay a few years.

7 thoughts on “What employers want”

  1. One reason that the interview process has gotten so much longer is the lack of homogeneousness of our population. It used to be that we could rely on having certain things in common, which makes us more predictable and more likely to fit in a particular workplace should we apply there. Now we have to test for “fit”, often in ineffective ways.

    The long and tortuous employee search may also be protective in some ways against discrimination claims, particularly in small businesses. If a company hires only a few employees per year, it’s a lot harder to get the data that proves a systematic pattern of discrimination against minorities or the disabled. If challenged, they could show that they evaluated 50 resumes and interviewed 10 people. Unless the names of applicants were ethnic, one could argue that the process was race-blind. A rule of naming girls during my childhood was that you shouldn’t name a girl something that didn’t sound decent if it was preceded with ” Sister Mary”. I guess girls named Mary were exempt.

    There are certain paths that get you to certain jobs. One reason that I could get the job that I have is that I’ve done this work before. It is not particularly pleasant work, but I enjoy the time that I spend in the plant and I like being around the crew. Talking with some of my classmates, it turns out that we have a lot of former nuclear Navy people, as well as people from other sites that are now closing.

    I believe that both the contractor who manages the plant and the government staff will do what they can to capture people with prior experience. For instance, we hired two of the Army Corps of Engineers people who worked on the project, and are trying to hire a third person. A fourth person declined an offer of employment.

    Disagreeable people can and do slow things down in the workplace. One of our engineers is prone to anxiety, which isn’t a good trait when you will have several people wanting a decision NOW about what to do in the plant as we get closer to operations. I’ve advised that this is the time to build your knowledge of the plant overall, and that you should expect the ground to feel a little squishy under your feet and feel some uncertainty, because there is a lot that any of us have to learn. Doing start-up isn’t as linear a process as building the plant. What we learned from building the plant isn’t rendered useless, but we do have to adapt that knowledge.

  2. There was a guy I worked with who had horrible anxiety attacks on the job.

    The man was a genius and boy could he sing…

    But when those anxiety attacks hit, they hit hard. It was very sad to hear what was going on. It would happen right in the middle of the day, with everybody listening.

    I am convinced there are no more decent people out there who are doing the hiring. They seem to want a quick fix and I got rightfully insulted several weeks ago when all 3 interviewers “assumed” that I’d leave them flat to restart my art company and that my art would interfere with their job.

    How much did you even think of me at all, if you are making this type of asinine “assumption”???

    For me to leave a “real” job to start a business of my own, I’d have to be earning twice as much as my yearly salary at my “real job” via sales of my art — and the work would have to be constant and frequent.

    And as for letting my art interfere with their job: wtf do I look like — some irresponsible kid???

    I do not care that I told one of the interviewers “there is always art to be sold. Whether you get an order via word of mouth, or a repair person or somebody similar comes into your home and sees your work and orders, or you go to a community art show where you can show your works and you leave your card near your work, there is always art to be sold.”

    Any photographer, musician, sculptor or other artist will tell you the same. Holy Demuth, Batman….this jerk that interviewed me must lead quite the sheltered life.:(

    That is how they felt, then to blazes with the 3 of them. I do not have time for patent nonsense, patent bullshit or games.

    It also tells me that these people don’t have any imagination — geez, if I am this enthusiastic about my hobby, don’t you think I’ll be enthusiastic about your company, also???

    What the fudge are they all afraid OF? That’s my question du noir: yes, what are they all afraid of?

  3. I think I posted a clip awhile back from the old Monkees show about a personnel computer hiring people based on questions. That at the time was a big joke and seemed far fetched but really is what we are seeing now where often computers to begin with scan for the right keywords. Then in the interview you need to answer the questions the right way otherwise be branded an introvert (ie not employable to them).

  4. I think that George Carlin got it right when he said that employers want people who are bright enough to do the paperwork but dumb enough not to know how badly they are being hosed.

  5. The long and torturous employee search is all because these dimrods are reading TOO MANY “HOW TO HIRE AN EMPLOYEE” books or articles. Or they’ve gone to some dumbass seminar that “Taught” them what to do.

    Ridiculous.

    And add in a nice healthy serving of ego stroking: asking for how many candidates to come in??? This is all stoking and stroking the ego: “Look how important we are that we need 12 people to interview for a shitty little admin job!”

    It also very well could be nearly none of these hiring managers know what they are doing.

  6. Most of them have no idea what they are even looking for. If they did people like us would have jobs or better jobs and some of the idiots with jobs would be unemployed. Luckily with the internet I can often see who gets the job instead of me and often it’s someone less skilled. I’ve gotten into arguments with people on this with them saying the person was more skilled, but no I have seen many qualifications and someone who is a recent grad or someone who just recently came to this country is not more skilled usually.

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